How does a person sue a government without having to sue themselves?
Can I walk into the courthouse and file a lawsuit against myself? Can I be a plaintiff
seeking substantial remedy, or better yet “money” from myself?
It would seem that if such a lawsuit was filed by me, the plaintiff, and I had
someone over the age of 18 serve me with a copy of the complaint (lawsuit), I have
effectively filed and served a lawsuit upon myself. I would then as a defendant in a
civil action, be forced to answer this complaint alleged against me, by me, and have
thirty days in which to answer the complaint or stand in default judgment.
Would I then as a defendant have to run out and hire the best attorney I can afford?
What if I can’t afford the usual $150 per hour attorney grab, then what? I suppose I
could represent myself pro se and answer to, and for myself.
In a way this entire case synopsis sounds rather wild and crazy to me. Well no, wait
just a second. Yep, the whole mindless thought of such a lawsuit is simply STUPID.
Perhaps it’s the alleged stupid pills that the mountain people find and put in the
water streams so all those stupid pills dissolve and flow right on down to us so we
can take a big drink of that refreshing crystal clear mountain spring water with that
good ole’ stupid after taste. Give me a break…
So I guess so far, it would be relatively easy to say that if I walked into a court house
and filed a lawsuit against myself only a couple things would, or could happen.
First, the clerk would give me a “stupid” look and then have to go ask someone else,
who in turn drank from the same stream as the rest of the loco's, I mean locals, by
the way. And that person then starts whispering, looking around all idle eyed while
trying to act smart when you know they drink stupid water too.
Then someone in a so called “position” their cousin put ‘em in, might come over to
me and blow me off with some stupid bogus reason as to why I cannot have access to
a court of law and file a legitimate lawsuit against someone. Naturally, probably
98% of the local population around here would probably say, “oh, okay….well thank
you then…
Now for the few people who wizened up and stopped drinking the stupid water and
drank some other water instead, then perhaps those people would, or could tell the
so called relative appointed superior person a liar, and to either file the lawsuit
and let a JUDGE tell me that crap or I‘ll have you ousted from office. After all, if
they can blow smoke up my wahzoo then I can certainly blow it up theirs, right?
The exception being, what I say would be meant and could be done because it’s a
true statement. I can start an ouster proceeding against any official I desire for
cause. Heck, I may just do it “just cause” I can, who knows. In fact, several names
come to mind and even if such ouster doesn't prevail it can sure cost a dude an
election. Ask "Easy Money" County Mayor Billy Ray Patton about that one...
So, in any event, I have just pretty much established that it is actually possible to
file a lawsuit against one’s self.
Now that you are now suing yourself in court what is a judge going to do?
What if I claim that I have 2 personalities who have been in constant conflict for so
long that one of them has filed a lawsuit against the other in order to seek relief in a
court of law. Hey, in my eyes the judge should be glad I wasn’t up there saying I had
12 personalities or something. Oh, and who by the way, each personality will be
going to proceed in this hypothetical civil action pro se (representing yourself).
Sure would not seem very fair for good old me to pay for "me" a lawyer to file my
case and then turn around and go hire a second lawyer to defend me in it. Perhaps
this sort of wasteful thinking goes hand in glove for Rhea County officials, but not
for me. They blow all YOUR tax money then want to make posters to show you how
they need more of YOUR money to spend. Geeez Usss, I feel sick already...
Continuing right along, now if it is possible for me to file a lawsuit against myself,
then could two people stand in line and file lawsuits against themselves as well?
The answer would naturally be “yes”. I mean heck, if one person gets to do
something then shouldn’t the next person? Based upon that logic, can we all
transform old town buildings into ugly green roofed sky scrapers?
So, with this in mind, every single person in a city could walk into the court house,
stand patiently in line, and file a lawsuit against themselves? Well, well, well now…
What chaos would this bring. Wow, every person in the entire city being sued and
every single one of them are suing themselves, wow. I am developing another
headache.
Just to make this topic interesting, just what would happen if Dayton's beloved
Mayor Bob Vincent <cough> walked into the court house and filed a lawsuit against
himself? Hey, I thought that according to law if the mayor, or any public official for
that matter, gets sued then the taxpayers foot the attorney bills. Yep, every tax
payer pays for a lawyer to represent a public official, and as for in this example, a
mayor.
Now just what is the mayor to do? Heck, he just filed a lawsuit against himself and
now he (as a defendant in the lawsuit) has to walk over to the city attorney and
hand the lawsuit over to him or her and let the city foot the city attorneys bills. I
mean after all, he is the mayor.
Now surely at this point you must be thinking that I drink the stupid water and am
one of the 90 something percent of the stupid water drinkers. Well, I guess the truth
to that question is, “yep, I still drink the stupid water from time to time just to keep
me in remembrance as to just how stupid water makes people stupid. I’m like the
“stupid wizard” …” However, I am not learning impaired like some of the police I
have seen in Dayton...
So far we have determined that a person can file a lawsuit against himself. We have
determined that a group of people, in fact a city full of people (maybe the city only
has 77 people in it, who knows) and that if one of those people suing themselves was
a public official then such public official would have public tax dollar paid lawyers,
in addition to him having to personally pay for his lawyer to file the lawsuit against
him in the first place. Wow.
Now I know you all are going to sit around and say, “they isn’t no way that
everything you just described so far would ever happen, nope”. Well when you think
about it, we are doing this very thing today. In fact we have been doing this exact
same think for a very long, long time.
Example: If you get pulled over by a police officer who then slaps around on you, or
does something that you know in your heart, mind and sole is beyond his legal
authority to do, yet he does it anyways, can you sue him? Of course you can sue him.
But when you do file suit what does the policeman do? Well, if it happened to be a
city cop then I would suppose that the events might unfold something like this:
Now please tell me if I am wrong, but if you break everything down and put all the
stupid stuff to the side, isn’t a case where a person sues a city or any government for
that matter, sort of like a conflict of interest? Hey, if the first beginning words of the
United States Constitution being “WE THE PEOPLE” are true, then WE THE
PEOPLE are in fact THE GOVERNMENT. Hello out there in Turnip Land. It is THE
PEOPLE who form whatever government they desire. Then again, we all can see
what sort of government "Sheeple" create only then to turn around and complain
about their creation.
Okay, don’t believe me, then what if this happened…
Note: If you want to read Part 2 of this crazy ramble story, click here. Personally, I
need a BC powder...
Can I walk into the courthouse and file a lawsuit against myself? Can I be a plaintiff
seeking substantial remedy, or better yet “money” from myself?
It would seem that if such a lawsuit was filed by me, the plaintiff, and I had
someone over the age of 18 serve me with a copy of the complaint (lawsuit), I have
effectively filed and served a lawsuit upon myself. I would then as a defendant in a
civil action, be forced to answer this complaint alleged against me, by me, and have
thirty days in which to answer the complaint or stand in default judgment.
Would I then as a defendant have to run out and hire the best attorney I can afford?
What if I can’t afford the usual $150 per hour attorney grab, then what? I suppose I
could represent myself pro se and answer to, and for myself.
In a way this entire case synopsis sounds rather wild and crazy to me. Well no, wait
just a second. Yep, the whole mindless thought of such a lawsuit is simply STUPID.
Perhaps it’s the alleged stupid pills that the mountain people find and put in the
water streams so all those stupid pills dissolve and flow right on down to us so we
can take a big drink of that refreshing crystal clear mountain spring water with that
good ole’ stupid after taste. Give me a break…
So I guess so far, it would be relatively easy to say that if I walked into a court house
and filed a lawsuit against myself only a couple things would, or could happen.
First, the clerk would give me a “stupid” look and then have to go ask someone else,
who in turn drank from the same stream as the rest of the loco's, I mean locals, by
the way. And that person then starts whispering, looking around all idle eyed while
trying to act smart when you know they drink stupid water too.
Then someone in a so called “position” their cousin put ‘em in, might come over to
me and blow me off with some stupid bogus reason as to why I cannot have access to
a court of law and file a legitimate lawsuit against someone. Naturally, probably
98% of the local population around here would probably say, “oh, okay….well thank
you then…
Now for the few people who wizened up and stopped drinking the stupid water and
drank some other water instead, then perhaps those people would, or could tell the
so called relative appointed superior person a liar, and to either file the lawsuit
and let a JUDGE tell me that crap or I‘ll have you ousted from office. After all, if
they can blow smoke up my wahzoo then I can certainly blow it up theirs, right?
The exception being, what I say would be meant and could be done because it’s a
true statement. I can start an ouster proceeding against any official I desire for
cause. Heck, I may just do it “just cause” I can, who knows. In fact, several names
come to mind and even if such ouster doesn't prevail it can sure cost a dude an
election. Ask "Easy Money" County Mayor Billy Ray Patton about that one...
So, in any event, I have just pretty much established that it is actually possible to
file a lawsuit against one’s self.
Now that you are now suing yourself in court what is a judge going to do?
What if I claim that I have 2 personalities who have been in constant conflict for so
long that one of them has filed a lawsuit against the other in order to seek relief in a
court of law. Hey, in my eyes the judge should be glad I wasn’t up there saying I had
12 personalities or something. Oh, and who by the way, each personality will be
going to proceed in this hypothetical civil action pro se (representing yourself).
Sure would not seem very fair for good old me to pay for "me" a lawyer to file my
case and then turn around and go hire a second lawyer to defend me in it. Perhaps
this sort of wasteful thinking goes hand in glove for Rhea County officials, but not
for me. They blow all YOUR tax money then want to make posters to show you how
they need more of YOUR money to spend. Geeez Usss, I feel sick already...
Continuing right along, now if it is possible for me to file a lawsuit against myself,
then could two people stand in line and file lawsuits against themselves as well?
The answer would naturally be “yes”. I mean heck, if one person gets to do
something then shouldn’t the next person? Based upon that logic, can we all
transform old town buildings into ugly green roofed sky scrapers?
So, with this in mind, every single person in a city could walk into the court house,
stand patiently in line, and file a lawsuit against themselves? Well, well, well now…
What chaos would this bring. Wow, every person in the entire city being sued and
every single one of them are suing themselves, wow. I am developing another
headache.
Just to make this topic interesting, just what would happen if Dayton's beloved
Mayor Bob Vincent <cough> walked into the court house and filed a lawsuit against
himself? Hey, I thought that according to law if the mayor, or any public official for
that matter, gets sued then the taxpayers foot the attorney bills. Yep, every tax
payer pays for a lawyer to represent a public official, and as for in this example, a
mayor.
Now just what is the mayor to do? Heck, he just filed a lawsuit against himself and
now he (as a defendant in the lawsuit) has to walk over to the city attorney and
hand the lawsuit over to him or her and let the city foot the city attorneys bills. I
mean after all, he is the mayor.
Now surely at this point you must be thinking that I drink the stupid water and am
one of the 90 something percent of the stupid water drinkers. Well, I guess the truth
to that question is, “yep, I still drink the stupid water from time to time just to keep
me in remembrance as to just how stupid water makes people stupid. I’m like the
“stupid wizard” …” However, I am not learning impaired like some of the police I
have seen in Dayton...
So far we have determined that a person can file a lawsuit against himself. We have
determined that a group of people, in fact a city full of people (maybe the city only
has 77 people in it, who knows) and that if one of those people suing themselves was
a public official then such public official would have public tax dollar paid lawyers,
in addition to him having to personally pay for his lawyer to file the lawsuit against
him in the first place. Wow.
Now I know you all are going to sit around and say, “they isn’t no way that
everything you just described so far would ever happen, nope”. Well when you think
about it, we are doing this very thing today. In fact we have been doing this exact
same think for a very long, long time.
Example: If you get pulled over by a police officer who then slaps around on you, or
does something that you know in your heart, mind and sole is beyond his legal
authority to do, yet he does it anyways, can you sue him? Of course you can sue him.
But when you do file suit what does the policeman do? Well, if it happened to be a
city cop then I would suppose that the events might unfold something like this:
- The citizen goes to an attorney and pays him to file a lawsuit against the cop.
- The cop is served with a copy of the complaint.
- The cop hands the complaint over to the city manager.
- The city manager hands it over to the city attorney.
- The city attorney hands it over to the insurance company who hands it to a
insurance paid law firm which defends the city and it’s officers. - The cop pays no money for an attorney, tax dollars are taking care of this
trivial inconvenience of having a lawsuit filed against him or her.
Now please tell me if I am wrong, but if you break everything down and put all the
stupid stuff to the side, isn’t a case where a person sues a city or any government for
that matter, sort of like a conflict of interest? Hey, if the first beginning words of the
United States Constitution being “WE THE PEOPLE” are true, then WE THE
PEOPLE are in fact THE GOVERNMENT. Hello out there in Turnip Land. It is THE
PEOPLE who form whatever government they desire. Then again, we all can see
what sort of government "Sheeple" create only then to turn around and complain
about their creation.
Okay, don’t believe me, then what if this happened…
Note: If you want to read Part 2 of this crazy ramble story, click here. Personally, I
need a BC powder...
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